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  • Converting my tent for winter snow use

    Bringing a question over to some experts.
    Back story first. I like to ski but I've always found that the money for on snow accommodation hard to find so I've been using a camp site in the National Park and tenting it.
    But as I get older and stiffer I need to use a cot/stretcher to sleep on and I sold the Helsport lavvu to somebody in Canada because I now need a tent I can use a tall cot in.
    I've bought a good quality and reasonably heavy duty tent for the Southern winter 2021 but it needs some modifications to use above the snow line.
    The main modification needed is fitting it out for use with a stove.
    I'd like to keep as much of the flue inside the tent as possible but for practical reasons it will probably exit via a side wall and as the tent has big side windows I thought that this was the obvious place to put the stove jack.
    The inner tent has mesh screens where the external windows are; I was going to cover the whole area with fabric and cut away some to allow the flue to exit.
    My question really is on the best orientation of the stove itself relative to long and narrow tent and whether or not it makes much difference in set-up.
    In actual use does it make much difference if the stove is parallel or at right angles to the long axis of a tent?
    The tent is 2400mm wide [ about 8 feet] and 3600 deep with a sloping rear section and I was naturally intending to put the cot at the back of the tent; the stove itself is only 300mm deep but because the tent walls are at an angle the stove comes out to the half way point.
    This being for Australia where the snow is wet and heavy I am going to be using a secondary fly over the top supported by the strongest poles I can get into the camp site.
    Here's a link to the tent series in question, these tents are no longer available but spare poles are, I got mine at a huge discount on clearance.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...gycrpRiuJo_zX5

    When the renovation mess in my back yard has been cleaned up I'll erect the tent and take pictures but I have about 8 months from now to get this organised, because the floor of the inner is sewn in I may have to pay somebody to do the sewing unless unstitching is an option.
    I have thought about using a cheap fibreglass fireblanket as the fabric to replace the mesh, I wonder if anybody has done that before?
    I have bought some 12mm Easton poles from TPT to replace a couple of the cheap Chinese poles but the centre poles will stay as made and I'll buy some spares before next winter.

  • #2
    What are your main questions?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Camper Jason View Post
      What are your main questions?
      Read the post, it is in there, lines 9 and 10

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      • #4
        With the tents that I've modified, it's a balancing act with usable space and stove efficiency. Ideally you want as much stove jack inside the tent as possible but that may take up valuable living space. My suggestion is to camp with the wood stove in the tent in various spots, pretend it's hot and try to decide what works best for you and your style of camping. Also, there's nothing against the rules of having multiple stove jacks in a tent for different configurations (like having guests, etc).

        Hope that helps.

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        • #5
          Thanx HD, I'd never even considered having more than one stove jack.
          My problem is that I can't think and visualise in three dimensions and as we are renovating I've not had a chance to erect the tent in the yard.
          Also this being Australia I do worry about the tents current ability to handle a large dump of wet and heavy snow without some structure modifications or using it under an extra external frame and strong tarp, such frame made from aluminium scaffold tubing or similar. Perhaps I should think about a central pole to add support for the frame and then do as you suggest and try the stove in various places. Can't wait for all the construction mess to get cleaned up so I can start playing.
          The Helsport stove is one of the larger ones on the market, I should think about shielding too.

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          • #6
            I've decided against taking one of the more expensive but stronger tents this winter.
            Instead I am going to take a big box cheap dome with FG wands. I have found an alloy drive wheel from some machine [ I'm a terrible scrounge] and I'll use it with a strong centre pole to support the tent against the wet snow loads. The spokes in the wheel are just far enough apart to run the stoves flue through and I'll cobble something together to secure the flue to the centre pole and run the stove right in the middle of the tent. As much as I hate waste this is a tent I couldn't even give away locally so no loss if it wears out.
            Here is a link to the cheap tent, I paid $250- for it 3 years ago.
            https://www.bcf.com.au/p/wanderer-ge...21510#start=11
            I've now got some scaffold type aluminium tubing to give me an A-shaped fly over the top and a heavy polyester tarp for a third layer.

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